UPDATED: DECEMBER 12, 2023
EPISODE 347: CULTURE, FOOD TRADITIONS, AND WEIGHTLOSS
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Hard-core diets love to tell you: “Food is just fuel.”
I call bullshit.
Deep in our bones, we know food is more than fuel. It’s love. It’s cultural expression. It’s identity.
And it’s damn delicious!
With No BS, you can nurture a strong connection to generations past without compromising your weightloss goals.
In today’s episode, No BS Coaches MJ and Dina talk about losing weight while savoring the foods that are an essential part of your heritage, culture, and traditions.
Coach Dina shares how, for years, the diet industry convinced her the only way to lose weight was by denying herself the Mexican and Hawaiian dishes that felt like home. Some diets didn’t even acknowledge her culture’s foods!
Then she found No BS.
She was skeptical she could shed pounds and still enjoy her mom’s chile rellenos, but she tried the No BS way and lost 40 pounds.
Listen to Episode 347: Culture, Food Traditions, and Weightloss for a new perspective on celebrating your cultural roots — even Coach MJ’s sweet tea and fried chicken — without overeating.
During this holiday season, I want you to relish the foods that feel like home while making progress on your weightloss. Learn how to do just that on today’s episode. Listen to Episode 347: Culture, Food Traditions, and Weightloss
Transcript
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Hi, I'm Corinne. After a lifetime of obesity being bullied for being the fattest kid in the class and losing and gaining weight like it was my job, I finally got my shit together and I lost 100 pounds each week. I'll teach you no bullshit weight loss advice you can use to overcome your battle with weight. I keep it simple. You'll learn how to quit eating and thinking like an asshole. You stop that and weight loss becomes easy. My goal is to help you lose weight the way you want to live your life. If you are ready to figure out weight loss, then let's go.
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Hello, I am Coach mj. I am the member journey director inside of the No BS Weight Loss membership, and I have something very important to talk to you about today, and I actually have a special guest with me today. So we're going to talk about what, how do you lose weight? If you grew up eating cultural foods that are important to your heritage and your culture, but they're not diet foods, how can you lose weight? Still have the foods that you grew up with, that you ate when you were little, that are still a part of your family, your heritage, who you are today and lose weight at the same time? And there is no better person to talk to about this than the amazing coach Dina. Coach Dina is our accountability coach inside of the No BS weight loss membership. Her job is to connect women with their no BS besties inside of our membership. So welcome coach Dina.
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Hello. I'm so happy to be here. This message is so important to me, as you can imagine. So yeah, let's do it. Let's talk. Yeah,
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So tell us a little bit about who you are and your journey to weight loss inside of No bs.
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Well, a friend of mine told me about this podcast and when I heard Corinne's message that you can eat the foods that you love and lose weight, I actually did not believe her. I was like, I don't think she understands someone like me, because both of my parents are from Mexico. They chose to leave Mexico like many immigrants to the us. Lucky me, they chose Hawaii. I remember asking them, why Hawaii and why not California, Arizona, like many other Mexican people? And they're like, if you're going to leave and choose a state, why not choose the best one? I'm like, alright. So Hawaii has a variety of cultures on the island represented. There's Mexicans, yay me, Hawaiian, Japanese, Chinese, Filipino, Korean. That was how I grew up. So the thought of me losing weight with those foods I did not believe Corinne. I was like, I don't think she knows someone like me. But I did try to do it, and guess what she was talking about? Someone like me. Yeah.
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Yeah. And so had you tried to lose weight in the past with traditional, what you would call traditional low carb, keto, all of that sort of stuff?
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Oh yeah. I tried every diet, and when I looked at those diets growing up, the typical meal was beans, tortillas, rice in the diet world. What is that? Carbs. Carbs and a side of carbs, please.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And then also I tried diets where, okay, it's Saturday night in Hawaii, I want to eat at a beautiful sushi restaurant. Let's go. So if you've ever been to a sushi restaurant in Hawaii, the menu looks like the Cheesecake Factory menu. It is a book page after page
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Of only sushi. And I remember being on one of those diets I take out, I pick my sushi, one of the many on the pages, I take out my Little Points book, and they have one entry on there and it says, sushi equals eight points. And I'm like, how does that make sense? Is that true? And how can that be true? So no other diets that I tried, I either had to eat what they told me to eat or deny what I grew up with, what I enjoy, what I understand my food life to be. I had to choose their diets or don't lose weight.
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And then it sets you up for when you are presented with those cultural foods. When you do go home to visit and you're getting the rice and the beans, even if you're away from your family, when you go back, you're like, well, I can't do this while I'm with them. So you probably have been restricting yourself for so long, not allowing the foods that you love, that when you go home, you have to just be totally off the wagon.
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Yes,
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Eat everything. You really don't know when you're going to get it again,
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And they
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Don't, and then come back 10 pounds heavier after
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Visiting your family. And they don't say it out loud that this is bad, your food is bad, but they say it in this subtle way. The food that you understand is not in their plan. They say it very subtly. They may not say it like, oh, Mexican food is bad, or sushi is bad, or whatever. They just don't understand it. And so by eliminating it, then you're like, it must be bad, then I can't lose weight. You start equating that message, and that is not the message that you want. I mean, I remember asking my diet leader like, okay, if I'm going to eat my mom's Chile Enos, how do I do that? How many points is that? Because it's not in the book. At least they had sushi on the book, but they did not have Chile renos on the book. And so her solution was, well take every ingredient and then do high math, actually take every ingredient and then do the servings.
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And okay, well what if I'm not standing next to my mother who does not have a recipe when she's making food? I dunno how much, she doesn't even know how much she put. She's like, oh, throw some of this, throw some of that. How do I do that? So notice that subtle message of, yeah, you can't figure it out. Just do it our way. Just eat our food. Yours is too complicated and the world is too big, mj, the world is too big for that kind of nonsense. I'm only going to eat by this book or this plan or this what they tell me to eat. That's pretty impossible for everyone to do it that
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Way. And it doesn't line up with who you are culturally. It doesn't line up with the way that you were brought up. And so how did you find that balance of including the foods that you love and then losing weight at the same time?
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I heard the message and I'm like, I'm going to believe this, that I can do that. Other diets have led me to believe that I cannot, and I just don't want to do that anymore. I don't want someone else to tell me about my life. Does that mean that I love my culture? I love being Mexican. I love that I grew up in Hawaii. Does that mean that I have to deny all my memories of the backyard, luaus, my family, get togethers? Does that mean that I can never eat what my grandma made when I was a kid? Does that mean that I have to forget basically that I'm Mexican? I have to pretend that I didn't grow up in Hawaii. So no. Yeah, it's a decision that I made that, no, I'm going to try it this way. If it is true that food is food that that's not the problem, how do I do that? And I love that Nobis really teaches that concept. Yeah, do it. You are the author of your life. You know your life. You know how you grew up. Start there. Start there.
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Why do you think it's so important for people to maintain their cultural identity and their heritage around food while they're working toward their weight loss goals?
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I mean, I think the thing that we also teach in No BS and the membership is get to know yourself. Get to know what you like. I mean, that's why it's like, okay, we have four basics. It does not include a food plan because you get to know yourself, get to know your body, get to know your life, get to know your heritage. Your heritage is a big part of who you are. How you grew up, where you grew up in the world is a big part of your life. And I love that. We have members from all over the world, Japan, Australia, all over the world. They do not just eat a certain diet and it is possible. So how can I tell you no? This is the only way you have to deny yourself. You're denying who you are and why are we losing weight? We're losing weight. So that, yes, to be healthy, yes to look good, but it's a feeling of happiness and pride and understanding who you are, what you is a big part of that. So don't deny that. It's important for you to do that, to keep that and to get to know that part of you.
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And since you, I mean I know you still include all of these foods. I think one of the best posts in our private Facebook community that you made, I think it was last summer, because you go for two weeks every year to Hawaii and you're totally immersed with your family and this Hawaiian culture, this Mexican culture, all of the foods. And tell us how much weight you gained last year when you went for two weeks.
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I don't remember what I posted, but there's been times that I go to white that I lose weight. I mean, it's like it's possible
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And you still are including all of those foods. I think last time you were gone for two weeks, you were eating all of the things that you enjoyed. And if you ever are inside of the no BS weight loss membership, and in our private Facebook community, it is literally like a foodie experience to follow Dina.
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She's taking pictures of all the food and this is what we made today. But I think really what I want you to talk about a little bit is it is the food. Yes, it is those shared experiences and the memories that are brought up with it. But when you took the focus so much about I got to eat it all, I got to eat it all. I don't know when I'm going to get it again, and all that other kind of stuff, did you discover that there is joy, more joy in other areas when you're with your family and enjoying those foods than maybe you had even known before when you were like, I need to eat all of it right now. I don't know when I'm going to get it again.
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Yeah, I mean, I love that that's what we work on in the membership. It's more about what am I making a problem and what is the problem that I'm making? Why is overeating always my solution? That is what I learned in no bs. I just kept thinking, wow, I would go to family dinner and I would think, oh wow, my mom worked so hard on this dish. I want to show her my love solution. I'm going to overeat. Everyone else is here. It is a celebration. Oh my gosh, we're eating our traditional Mexican food. How do I make myself a part of that solution? Overeat. Everyone else is eating. I want to be a part of this time solution. This is how I do it. And that is the type of work that we do. It's notice how the solution to our perceived problem is always overeat.
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And that's not, you start discovering like, oh my goodness, I can eat. I can eat the foods that I love. I can be part of the celebration. I can show my love and appreciation to my family members who work so hard on this meal without overeating. That is not the only solution we talk about. And we learn how there's other ways we just A, don't realize it, and B, we don't practice it because we don't believe that there's another way. What do you mean? And when you start testing that and seeing that in your life, you're like, wait a minute, it isn't a problem. Because in my mind, if I don't overeat, my mom's going to be super upset and she's going to be like, what? And so I tested it, right? I show up and she serves me my meal and I'm eating, okay, I've had enough, not everything. There's no seconds of oh or whatever. I'm not overeating. And my mom says, oh, did you not like it? I'm like, oh, no, I loved it. Thank you so much. Do you want more? Oh, no, thank you. In my head, the next scene is like she's in tears, destruction, chaos, right?
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Yeah.
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Then the reality is like, Hey, kids, get off of there. Whatever. No, didn't happen. Like, oh my gosh. Yeah. So it's so funny how we create these things, and that is absolutely what we talk about and what we learn and discover and teach other solutions. We share with each other. What else could be true? What else is the solution other than overeating? And I think in the past, other diets, their solution is just don't eat that. Just don't eat that. Take that out of your diet and wow, how can can you do that to a whole world of people? That's just not a viable solution.
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And I think too, when you were talking about your grandmother cooking stuff when you were little and all that kind of stuff, it's almost like whenever you eat those foods, it is the food, but the food, because our brains work, so that sounds, tastes, smells, bring back memories for us. And so it's just being in that environment you get to enjoy now you're enjoying the food without overeating it, without being miserable afterwards. Plus you still get to enjoy the memories and to reminisce and to have all of those thoughts in your head about your grandmother and about luaus and whatever you did when you were little. And you still get to enjoy the food.
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Yes, absolutely. And even this can apply to everyone in the world. My coworker is Corinne's mom, mammy, the stuff that we relate a lot. It's funny how much we relate. She has given me her fried chicken recipe that I enjoy because that's her background. That's what her mom used to make. That's what she eats. We always joke too, because whenever I make exotic food, I always Marco Polo, I message mammy. I'm like, guess what I'm making? I'm making exotic meatloaf. To me, that's exotic, right? She is like, okay, yeah, that's different for me. But yeah, your exotic, your traditional foods, it doesn't have to be Mexican food. It could be fried chicken, it could
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Be Southern.
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It's how you grew up and notice how there's so much emotion attached to it that most diets would be like fried chicken. Oh my goodness, we can't eat fried chicken. MAM's lost over a hundred pounds, still eating fried chicken. It is for every person, every culture. But I think sometimes even more other cultures other than the standard American culture, sometimes you can get the feeling like, wow, they're not even in the diet. At least you can find chicken, right, or whatever. But sometimes you don't find mole chicken mole. Where's that in the diet?
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Well, I mean, fried chicken, some options. You can do shake and baked chicken, or now we have the amazing air fryer, so you can get it similar, but tortillas and rice and beans, there's not the option. It just can't even be
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Included, right? And it's like, oh, let's just not do that. And it's like, okay,
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Yeah, I just have to turn that whole side of you off.
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And that's
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Not a solution. It's not a solution. So I'm sitting around and I am thinking that everything on my cultural food list that I grew up eating, that I enjoy, that my family still makes, that I even want to continue to cook, to pass it on to my kids so that they appreciate the heritage and the culture and the food of the way that I grew up. But I am so scared to start to plan those things to try to learn to enjoy them without overeating them. What are some tips and tricks that you have for people who are listening today who maybe just kind of where you were, whenever you're like, what's going to happen whenever, when I don't eat the second plate at my mom's? What do you say to them?
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Well, and I even found other people that resonated with the posts that I would make. I specifically remember one of the members was like, thank you so much for this conversation, even opening that up because I've been avoiding my mom's food. She's from Jamaica and everything the same rice-based carbs
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Are so evil that she's like, I was really afraid. But yeah, that makes sense. And when I thought that, I was like, Hey, thank God for no bs, because denying your own mom's cooking because of fear, that's pretty heartbreaking when you think of it. So the first thing is just noticing what's happening, noticing that the fear that comes over you and everything. So my best practical tips when I started on this journey was noticing that and then planning it. This is what I usually eat. I'm going to start there. I'm going to take Corrine, no B bs plan. I'll take their word and see how this works. I'm noticing that I'm freaking out. So first thing is I noticed that I plan to eat what I normally eat, and then I start to understand why am I overeating? And we talked about that earlier.
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I am perceiving problems that may not even be there. And the solution is always overeating. Okay, let me start understanding that. I started to understand my own personal taste. What is it that I like to eat the first time? Whether, okay, just plan. Plan. And it's like, well, what do I plan? And we don't tell you, right? It's like, well, what do you like to eat? Wow, what a huge question. It's like, I don't even know. So let's start discovering there. What do I like to eat? What do I like to eat at certain celebrations? Really question what diets have told you in the past. In the past, they have said Mexican food is bad. No, it's not. If you like spicy salsa or kimchi, guess what? It's made out of veggies. And you get to drink more water so spicy and you slow down eating. How is that bad? Good. And then get to know for real how the food makes you feel. Really be honest, right? Do I even like this? Do I even how I feel after I eat this? Because sometimes
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Physically, yeah,
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Yeah, physically sometimes the answer is like, no. And so then start to notice that and start to balance that notice that I never said and then avoid it. Because sometimes if it is part of a tradition, I know that that's going to make me feel yucky. I don't like the fried version of this or whatever. I can take a bite of that. I don't need to eliminate anything. It's just getting to know yourself. But practical tips is like, yes, plan it. Watch yourself really see how it works in your body and in your life. And then you get to be the author. You get to decide how you will incorporate this into your life. It's exciting stuff.
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It's almost like just give yourself permission to plan it, right? Because what happens is on traditional diets, if you've got the points or you got to do the ketos or whatever you got to do, even when you're eating it, you're like, I'm going to sit here and I'm going to enjoy it. I'm going to enjoy this time with my family. I'm going to have the rice and I'm going to have the tortillas. I'm going to have all the things. I'm the whole time there's a movie. You shouldn't be eating this. You're not going to lose weight if you eat this.
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You better not have this. Oh, you're really going to have to buckle down tomorrow. You better watch the rest of the week. It's salads for you, and then you overeat it. Because I mean, I think that's one of the triggers for overeating. But if you're like, I'm going to sit here and I'm going to enjoy every bite and I'm not going to overeat it, and I'm going to enjoy this company that I'm with, and I'm going to share memories with them, I'm going to just be who I am around food, and I can have this whenever I want it. You better, you know, don't get this often. You don't know when you're going to be able to have it again, whatever. And then you just drop that shame and guilt while you're eating it. That's one step to make it way more doable for yourself. If you're not beating yourself up, how much can you enjoy your family if the whole time you're thinking you're wrong or bad, or we're going to have to tighten up tomorrow the whole entire time.
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And think of the logic too. If it is truly the food that is so bad, how then let's go with that logic. How is it that the country of France with brie sourdough bread, pasta croissants, how does Italy exist? How does Mexico exist? And not everyone overweight. Then the logic would be like, well, they eat that food, then it's just bad that
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They, a hundred percent of the people would be overweight. Yeah.
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Yes. That is the logic, but that is not true. So are the people eating broccoli and chicken only? No, no. Such a good point. And so it's like how is that happening? So then you have to start understanding that logic like, oh yeah, it's not the food. Right? It really is other factors, what you're
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Thinking,
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How you said, how you're eating, and the four basics are awesome. Incorporate those two. See how they all work together? It is possible. Yeah, it is so possible. Yeah.
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I love that. So I had never really thought of it like you just said it, but it is so very true. Everybody would be, and that whole country or that whole group would be overweight, right? Oh my gosh. And
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Yeah, get to know your culture, because when you do that, you get to know yourself. Don't let other people define who you are and what it means to be you. I know what I call Mexican food. I don't need to agree with what mainstream restaurants say is Mexican food. And it's so fun. I've taken the time to ask my mom, how do you make that recipe? What goes in that dish? I've looked up Mexican chefs that I admire so that I can add more recipes. Understanding that you wanting to lose weight is a part of you wanting to be happy. That is understanding who you are. And you don't need to deny your culture.
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And I mean, the goal at No BS is to help every woman lose all of her weight for good and feel as amazing as she deserves. And if you are sitting around with a cultural type of food that you continue to think is bad forever, you're never going to, even if you get to your goal weight, you're never going to feel as amazing as you deserve. Because you're saying that one piece of you, that food that you love and that you enjoy and that you grew up on is bad. And that is a really difficult place to be,
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Right? Yes. And you get to be the author of your future, right?
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Yes.
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What do I want my future? And so many diets. I remember being on diets and, all right, I'll eat this way, but once I'm off, I'm going to go back. How can I deny my mom's food or my traditions when I get the goal? Then I'll go back to eating what I like. That's the other thing that I love about our membership. We teach you how to do it now all along the way so that when you get there, there is no going back. We've already practiced it. We already know how to do this. We can just continue. I love word maintenance. We get to maintain what we've been doing.
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Yeah, exactly. And I mean, that's one reason that we teach you inside of the membership how to create this amazing food life and creating the life that you want. And then that's one reason we do have a maintenance program and a maintenance planner, because you don't just get dropped off at the end and be like, congratulations, your goal, goodbye. We support you even in maintenance, which I mean, things do come up in maintenance, which I think is, it's just amazing that we have that kind of support all the way through.
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Yes, yes, absolutely. Yes. This is the message that is so important to me, and if I could yell it from the rooftops, it would be that you can eat your own cultural food. You do not need to demonize how you grew up, the people in your heritage and in your family. It's not true. You are able to eat your own cultural foods and what you enjoy and grew up with and have traditions around and lose weight and continue to sustain that weight.
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Yeah, for sure. I mean, it just really, I think it's such an important message because so many of us, I mean, I'm southern, it's all fried and all sweet tea and everything, and for a lot of time I did the same. I can't have any of those things that I love. And if you're anywhere from the fat back, I grew up eating that kind of stuff, and I remember my grandmother cooking that kind of stuff, and then whenever I have it now, it's not just she's gone. But whenever I eat those things, I visit with her. Basically all those memories come back and I get to enjoy time with her. And to think about not having that to go to, I don't know if your grandmother is gone now, but I'm sure whenever you're doing a luau and you're doing all those things with your family, it's like visiting with her.
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Oh,
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Absolutely. I love that. At the same time, and their name gets brought up and you start to tell stories and all of that stuff happens, and it's really because all of those foods that you remember growing up bring all of that back up for you.
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Yes. And I think we know that intuitively, that whole message of food is just fuel. Is it? I don't think so. I don't think so. I think it's a big part of our enjoyment and wow, do we deny ourselves enjoyment through the process? And you just don't need to. You really don't need, do not have to struggle and deny an enjoyable part of your life, not necessary, and memories and traditions and culture, things that you're familiar with, that's a big part of enjoyment
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Because you need to enjoy your life and we all eat, and so you need to enjoy your food. If you're sitting around eating boiled chicken and broccoli with no seasoning on it, that's not enjoyment either. I know there's someone out there that's like, wait, I love boiled chicken. If you love it, then please continue on. But for a lot of us, that's not what we love. What kind of foods we love.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So, well, thank you, Dina. I appreciate you so much and you are such an amazing, I mean, you really do practice what you're talking about on this podcast today, because following you is like following a foodie. I'm a foodie self. I know. Yeah. But it's like you get to see all the things that she is, including things that she's like cooking and different things, and she's lost 40
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Pounds.
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It's like I did all of that and lost 40 pounds, and I continue to eat everything that matters to me culturally that I grew up with, that I love, that I enjoy. That is a
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Part of me. Yeah, that's a message. Love to share. You can too.
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Yeah, for sure. Well, I appreciate you, Dina.
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You're welcome. Happy to be here.
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Alright, thank you.
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